Tape Number: WCHFT004
Title: WW2 Home Front interview with Joyce Amato #2
Title Type: Element
Program, Series or Collection Title: Wisconsin WWII Stories: Home Front
Format: BetaSP
Creator: Hestad, David//Producer
Contributor: Soetenga, Everett (Butch) //Videographer
Naunas, Tom//Sound Engineer
Date Created: 2002-11-21
Publisher: University of Wisconsin Board of Regents//Copyright holder
Subject: war
Description: Tape Number WCHFT004

04:00:43;16 04:00:44;11 [00:00:00:25] WCHFT004
:keywords:
World War II
home front
Joyce Amato – interview
Continued

Interview conducted on November 21, 2002

former Manitowoc Company employee
side launches
security
transporting submarines to New Orleans

shoot date: 11-21-2002
transfered from Hestad laptop: March 2004

04:00:45;15 04:01:11;29 [00:00:26:12] WCHFT004
:Chatting about kids:
J - I have three sons. One is married, he's in Green Bay. He just retired in January from the Green Bay Fire Department.
Q - Oh, okay.
J - And then I have a son in Mequon and then...


04:01:19;26 04:02:53;23 [00:01:33:25] WCHFT004
:Toured Florida after discharged:
Q - When you came back, what, how, what did you get out of the Marines? Did you come back here then?:
J - Yes, well, before I came back, we were discharged in, in um, Camp Lejeune and before I came back I decided, well, I was going to take a tour of Florida before I came back, because I had thought, "Well, maybe I'll never get to Florida." So, I bought, I would get a ticket, a bus ticket from one place to the other and stop there to see what was going on and went all around to, oh I got down to Orlando and Miami and then up to Sarasota, and I wanted to see the Ringling Brothers Circus at their winter quarters in Sarasota, so I went there. Then I thought, "Well, I had enough, I'm ready to go home." So then I took the bus up to Washington, D.C. to get the train to come home, so.

04:02:53;23 04:04:23;00 [00:01:29:03] WCHFT004
:returning to Manitowoc and going to college:
Q- What was that like, coming back to Manitowoc?
J - Well, I thought, well now, I, we had, I would have four years of um, that I could go to the university for nothing, so I was going to go, but I couldn't get in there right away because all of these guys that were coming back they all could go to the university and so by the time I got back in 1946, then the schools were all full. So I had to wait for about a year before I could get in, and then so then I thought, well, I thought I wanted to be an architect like my grandfather, so I tried different places and then, well, then I could go to the University of Minnesota and take engineering there. Well, they start out with engineering, you know, for the first year, and then after that then you can specialize in what you want, so... So I had that.


04:04:23;00 04:05:35;07 [00:01:12:05] WCHFT004
:tight security at submarine plants:
Q - At the plants, remember you told me over the phone that you were, you were fingerprinted?
J - Yeah. See, they had guards at the gates who, because this was, this was supposed to be, well, a war program and supposed to be fingerprinted and (??) so then you got a badge that you could wear so that you could go in the gate there and all that, because they had these guards there at the gates there, and they could check you in and out and all that.
Q - So it must have been like a little city within the city, was it, did they have a place to eat, anything to do or no?
J - Well, no, you had to bring your own lunch there, so that, uh. I don't know where the sailors ate, but they had their barracks.

04:05:35;07 04:06:24;28 [00:00:49:19] WCHFT004
:why do side launches:
Q - How about when the finished a ship? They launched it didn't they? Can you tell us a little bit about that?
J - Well, they launched them sideways because the river isn't big enough like other places on the east and west coast. They can launch them stern first, that way, but here there wasn't room enough so that they had to launch them sideways. And then so they'd have them, and they had, oh I don't know, just.

04:06:24;28 04:08:14;08 [00:01:49:06] WCHFT004
:excitement of launches:
J - They had it built up and so then they had, uh, they had tested that in a tank to make sure that when it tipped off like that that it would come back up. They had to test that first. And so then they uh, had all, all of these men were pounding blocks into things like that, building up so that they could launch them side, launch them there, and when everything was all ready then they had some, somebody that would, would, some woman who was a sponsor, she'd hit the glass with wine, you know, and name it. And then they'd cut all these ropes here and then slide down, and then when it'd slide down and then, oh there was a big , big wall of water that would splash all the way over to the other side of the river there, and then I don't know if there were some people that got wet over there, but I wasn't over on that side! Yeah, so.
Q - Pretty exciting time.
J - Yeah. And they'd launch each one, yeah.

04:08:14;08 04:08:28;04 [00:00:13:26] WCHFT004
:other stories?:
Q - Were there any other stories that you could think of?

04:08:28;04 04:10:20;04 [00:01:51:28] WCHFT004
:how submarine transported to ocean:
J - Well, the only thing is that when they went down to New Orleans, they had to, they had to go down to Chicago and from Chicago through the Chicago River, and then into that Illinois drainage canal, and then they had to put them on, on, um, dry docks to go down the Mississippi, because um. And in order to do that they had to take the part of the conning tower off and the parascope out and crate them on the deck, leave them there so then they could go under the bridges over the Mississippi. And sometimes the Mississippi is shallow in places, so the dry docks...cause otherwise the submarine would take too much... they wouldn't be able to get down there, and so then they had, there and then they had someplace they'd have to, uh. And they take them all the way down to New Orleans and then they'd put everything back together again and then the sailors would come back and they'd get all the food and all the water and everything ready so that they could go out and go through the Panama Canal and out there that way. So that's how they got it down.

04:10:20;04 04:10:50;10 [00:00:30:06] WCHFT004
:exciting to work on submarines:
Q - Big job.
J - Yeah, big job. Yeah. (laughs) because we're the only submarines that were built inland, you know. So, they had to work some way to get them down.
Q- That much have been pretty exciting working on the submarines.
J - Yeah.
Description Type: Log
Format Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Format Generations: Moving Image/Original Footage
FormatLocation: Media Library
Duration: 00:10:05;00
Format Colors: Color
Genre: Interview
Genre Authority Used: PBS PODS
Language: eng
Date Of Record Release: 2009-11-04 10:40:05 (W3C-DTF)
Date Record Checked: 2009-11-04
Format Tracks: track 2: right mono
track 1: left mono
Format Media Type: Moving Image
Alternative Modes: No Captions
Subject Authority Used: International Press Telecommunications Council
Annotation: Cataloged as part of the American Archive Pilot Project
FormatIdentifierSource: Wisconsin Public Television
Date of Record Creation: 2009-11-04 10:30:20 (W3C-DTF)
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Date Last Modified: 2010-01-14 09:48:14 (W3C-DTF)

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